Dracil’s BlogJournal

May 7, 2009

10 reasons why gay marriage is wrong

Filed under: christianity, Controversy, Politics, religion — Tags: , , — dracil @ 8:50 pm

Oh, I have seen the light now.  Yes, yes I have.

1) Being gay is not natural. Real people always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

3) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

4) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn’t changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can’t marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

5) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Brittany Spears’ 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

6) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn’t be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren’t full yet, and the world needs more children.

7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

8) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That’s why we have only one religion in the world.

9) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That’s why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven’t adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans

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December 16, 2008

Evangelicals force leader to step down

Top evangelical resigns after backing gay unions

Well, looks like there’s still some hope for the evangelicals after all.

December 12, 2008

Mike Huckabee vs. Jon Stewart on Gay Marriage

Video

Full transcript

If Huckabee ever decides to run for president again, this could come back and bite him.

Also, in case you missed it, even though it’s old now, Keith Olbermann’s special comment on Prop 8 (the Youtube video I linked in the past is probably removed by now).

December 4, 2008

Prop 8 The Musical

Prop 8 The Musical.  It’s about 3 min long.  Contains quite a few big names in the cast.

While we’re at it, let’s ban divorce.

November 16, 2008

Nationwide Protest against Proposition 8 in San Francisco

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So… I went to the protest today.

Well, first I went to Calumet to try out a photography vest.  Decided not to get it ’cause they only had black (which can get really hot).  I mainly want one so I don’t have to keep bringing bags.

There were several protesters on the bus I took to city hall.  I arrived half an hour early but there was already a really large crowd.

There were a bunch of political and religious figures that gave speeches like Mark Leno or Amos Brown or the girl sent by Barbara Lee.  There were also LGBT people including a hermaphrodite.  For the most part, they tried to tell people to stop scapegoating other communities.  I think it helped the message that some of the people up there were African-American preachers and gay mormons.

I went to get lunch when it was over at 12:45 (15 minutes overtime) and saw the protesters march past while I was eating.  Went to get some books over at Japantown, then went back to downtown to go home and we hit the protesters who were basically marching on the streets and blocking traffic.

As I was heading to the Bart I saw a big crowd of people watching a performance by The Loyd Family Players.  They took a 5 minute break but the police came and made them go away during their break.

November 12, 2008

On Proposition 8

The biological argument fails because we don’t ban marriages for infertile couples nor do we require that couples must have children.

The traditional argument fails because marriage has been changing through history, from when women were essentially livestock to the fact that same-sex marriages existed since Roman times.

The protecting marriage argument fails because these same people don’t spend nearly the same amount of time and effort on divorce.

The slippery slope fallacy fails because it’s a fallacy.

The religious argument fails because we are not a theocracy.

The “it’s only a word” argument fails because if you truly believed that, you’d know it works both ways and you wouldn’t have any problem with them having that “only a word”.

The will of the voters argument fails because of tyranny of the majority and something called checks and balances along with the possibility that Proposition 8 itself was actually illegal because it did not go through the proper process as required for constitutional revisions and instead passed itself on as a constitutional amendment.  Also, the “will” of the voters is drastically changing.  8 years ago, the margin was 23%.  It is now 4%.  The reason they don’t want a third vote is because they know that time is against them and that the next time, full equality will win out, especially when a lot of the Obama effort can shift their energy back on this.  Also, they are friggin’ hypocrites because they keep putting the abortion notification thing in the ballots even though it’s been defeated THREE times now.

The “we should abolish all marriages and let marriage be defined by the individual religion but I voted Yes on H8” fails because voting your definition of marriage into the constitution is exactly the opposite of not letting the state have anything to do with marriages.

Also, what’s with people complaining about being boycotted?  Yeah, you have the right to donate money for your political beliefs.  And we have the right not to patronize your business as a result.  But people really need to be more careful and not target a business because an employee made the donation.  Employers cannot legally do anything about that.  But if the employer made the donation, then their business is fair game for a boycott.

There’s a nationwide protest this Saturday as well.  http://jointheimpact.com/

May 15, 2008

Protect Marriage?

As you’ve probably heard by now, the California Supreme Court ruled today that gay marriage is legal.

Naturally, there are groups whining about it and attempting to put an amendment on the November ballots.

Of course, we all know they’re hypocrites.  Even assuming gay marriage really is some great evil that hurts “traditional marriage”, let’s be realistic.  The LGBT community is just slightly more than 1% of the Californian population.  It’s insignificant.

If these people truly cared about protecting the institution of marriage, they should be going after adultery and divorce.  The percentage of Californians who are married is 48.5%.  About 1/3 to 1/2 of those marriages will end in divorce.  From various figures I’ve seen, the adultery rate is about 50%.  There are some lower bounds on adultery rates based on paternity tests done, but they also vary, hence the 5-30% figure that I mentioned in my review of Wedding Crashers.  The book I got it from mentioned a specific study showed a 10% non-paternity rate in the 1940s.  There’s another study mentioned at the Canadian Children’s Rights Council from the 70s, where 30% of the students in a class discovered their dad was not their biological father, so 50% is probably a fair number to use for adultery rates (as not all adultery leads to children)

Since adultery also often leads to divorce, some of these numbers will overlap, but I think it’s a good estimate that at least 25% of the population will be in adulterous and/or divorced marriages.  That’s over 20 times greater than any possible “threat” that could be caused by allowing the LGBT community to marry each other.

Shouldn’t these “protect marriage” people be going after all these heterosexual people instead?  Much more bang for their buck after all.

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