Dracil’s BlogJournal

November 16, 2008

Olbermann on Prop 8

Also, domestic partnerships are still inferior to marriages despite the people bringing up that one law.  And that’s not even including federal differences.



  1. I don’t understand what the problem is. If they don’t object to gay people being together (thus being OK with a civil union), what difference does it make to them?

    (Really I don’t understand what the problem is anyway, but the logic seems flawed to me.)

    Comment by Terra — November 16, 2008 @ 12:38 am

  2. The U.S. government crossed a VERY serious line with PROP 8. Children’s sense of safety and belongingness were and have been threatened by Proposition 8 in California.

    Regardless of THIS particular fight, there are too many fights on too many fronts to conquer piecemeal. NOW is the time to DRAW A NEW LINE in the sand, and demand from President Obama and our representatives FULL EQUALITY on all fronts. We are EQUAL SOULS in HUMAN BODIES. Can we stop basing U.S. laws on genitalia?

    There are countless stories of Americans whose suffering needs to be addressed in this fight. Marriage laws were put in place many years ago in order to protect individuals and their families; if they were not necessary they would not exist for heterosexuals. When these laws are NOT in place for ALL of us, horrible, horrible suffering occurs.

    So Americans want to continue denying us what they have already deemed as essential. And many want us to wait 2, 5, 10, 20, or 30 more years, depending on the “civil right”. I personally have a HUGE problem with that.

    As Americans can’t we agree that there are MANY other important issues to address (like the economy, education, health care, poverty & homelessness, Iraq/Afghanistan), and solving those problems is more urgent than having “EQUALITY ISSUES” tie up the courts for another 30+ years?

    Will you join me on Wednesday, April 15th, 2009, and inform the government that WE are eager to be included in the federal tax base as soon as THEY include us in society’s laws?

    Comment by johnbisceglia — November 16, 2008 @ 12:52 am

  3. While I appreciate the idea of rebellion, wouldn’t it be more productive to challenge the action based on the constitution of the united states?

    Find a sympathetic religion?
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Better yet?
    1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    Seems to me that a vote isn’t due process, and it seems to me that equal protection of the laws is right there…

    A good lawyer?

    Comment by Terra — November 16, 2008 @ 1:23 am

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